Phuket Gazette

PHUKET: If what's good for the capital is good for the country, then Phuket could soon have alcohol-free zones.

According to a report this afternoon by the government's National News Bureau, Bangkok is tipped to have such zones throughout the city, in a move to "curb violence that often stems from binge drinking."

But this is not a tsk-tsk 'social engineering' ploy of the type driven by the Culture Ministry under the Thaksin administration. No, this time it's rather more down to earth than that.

The zones in which drinking will be banned are every public park, every government building, and every police station. That's right, the police will no longer be allowed to drink in their stations, although enforcement could, at least in theory, render the new rule a paper tiger.

Readers will understand that there are from time to time a few laws which do elude enforcement here in Phuket, but perhaps such is not the case in our capital city.

Either way, it will be reassuring to know that the folks in the Finance Ministry are sober, no matter how depressing the economic news after the rise in minimum wages and the heartfelt gift of 800,000 tablet computers to school kids.

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration is slated to sign a memorandum of understanding with the Secretary for Public Health to ensure "enforcement" of the ban on crapulence by the cops – not only in their stations but in all other sobriety zones as well.

Selling, drinking and advertising alcohol will be prohibited in these zones.

The legal age to drink alcohol in Thailand is 20 years. Alcoholic drinks can only be sold in a shop or a club. Sales of alcohol nationwide are currently limited to two periods: from 1100 hrs to 1400, and from 1700 hrs to midnight.

However, enforcement of the alcohol purchasing hours in Phuket, at least, has been quite tippler friendly with nary a complaint heard.

Will the 'no booze' zones come to Phuket? We think they will.

Will they bring about any discernible behavioral change in the areas designated? We think not.
– Phuket Gazette

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea August 31, 2011 10:12:14PM

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Is this an April Fool's joke? Horst.

Posted by Horst August 31, 2011 10:20:44PM

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A good idea – and they can start by banning drinking in the street.

Posted by Chas August 31, 2011 10:45:51PM

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At least there is one booze-free zone already on Phuket: Laem Phrom Thep.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin August 31, 2011 11:10:56PM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog August 31, 2011 11:19:57PM

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Is this an April Fool's joke? Nothing will ever stop people drinking... that's history!

Posted by Hajo September 1, 2011 12:48:33AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike September 1, 2011 02:12:08AM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Good one. I agree they're a far bigger threat than booze. But not sure they could be banned from government offices.

Posted by Glenn Murphy September 1, 2011 08:24:37AM

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At least there is one booze-free zone already on Phuket: Laem Phrom Thep.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin

Is this true? Does anyone know? If so, it could be the tip of the iceberg and for me it would be a most welcome iceberg. Sick and tired of seeing people drunk all over the place.

Posted by Hugh Jackson September 1, 2011 08:28:47AM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Oh, no – think of all the tourists we're going to lose if they can't chew gum. But seriously the ban on booze in police stations and other government offices is just common sense. But public parks.... ? Not sure about that one. Isn't it illegal to drink in public parks in Thailand already? Anyway the whole thing won't be enforced, so no change probably.

Posted by PG Reader September 1, 2011 08:35:19AM

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Is not fair! When public servants are not serving the public they should be allowed to have some fun, like drinking and playing cards, right?

Posted by Augusto September 1, 2011 08:59:34AM

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A good idea – and they can start by banning drinking in the street.

Posted by Chas

I agree but when you have the Cheap Charlies coming from Bali this is what you get. Also, we have alcohol free zones in Bondi and they don't work. It just enables more money to be earned from corruption.

Posted by bondi September 1, 2011 09:01:18AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V September 1, 2011 09:49:18AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt September 1, 2011 10:17:00AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian September 1, 2011 10:47:58AM

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Phuket would be a far better place if it did "become another Singapore".
In Singapore all modes of public transport are extremely safe; there are 24-hours drinking zones, but very little violence; prostitution is legal; the police keep a low profile but enforce the law and not change it for the highest bidder; Kite flying, skate-boarding and cycling are not banned, they are allowed in the appropriate places.

Posted by Dickie September 1, 2011 01:38:10PM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Banning para-gliding at Laem Phromthep would be great! And at the EGAT windmill site nearby.

Posted by Chas September 1, 2011 03:33:36PM

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What a concept! No drinking in government buildings? And, no drinking by cops on duty? What's Thailand trying to do? Seriously, this should have been done a few decades ago.

Posted by Vegas Bigfoot September 1, 2011 03:33:42PM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian

You are a member of P.I.S.S.? Really? :))

Posted by another steve September 1, 2011 04:33:12PM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Banning para-gliding at Laem Phromthep would be great! And at the EGAT windmill site nearby.

Posted by Chas

What's the problem with the para-gliding? I love to watch it :)

Posted by Chuck Mooreland September 1, 2011 04:41:52PM

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What a concept! No drinking in government buildings? And, no drinking by cops on duty? What's Thailand trying to do? Seriously, this should have been done a few decades ago.

Posted by Vegas Bigfoot

That is PRECISELY what I thought when I read this! It's amazing that any country would actually have policemen drinking in their stations! LOL

Posted by Ellie Ryan September 1, 2011 04:44:39PM

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How about banning TVs in police boxes and stations?

Posted by Kildonan September 1, 2011 05:47:37PM

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Let's not destroy the magic of Phuket (in particular Patong) due to the behavior of some idiots.

Sure, allocate some dry zones, but perhaps only use them for specific functions (family shows with many youngsters) and allocate areas for those who need to drink.

The majority of visitors to Phuket come for a break and the privilege to enjoy themselves without restrictions, but sanity must prevail.
Will this stop alcohol sales?

Posted by Simmo September 1, 2011 06:44:14PM

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Hmm, I've seen alcohol banned in public places including beaches in the US, UK and Australia, with draconian punishments for popping a beer and cops patrolling to prevent this heinous offense.

Let me guess– it should be different because we are on holiday. Hypocrisy rules!

Posted by Mister Ree September 1, 2011 07:12:27PM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Great idea, if this does not get approved, maybe they could make the tuk-tuk drivers cab drink and drug free!

Posted by Sandy Shores September 1, 2011 08:13:53PM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Great idea, if this does not get approved, maybe they could make the tuk-tuk drivers cab drink and drug free!

Posted by Sandy Shores

Those of us who have been around for some time are well aware that the tuk-tuk drivers sit around drinking between fares. I have seen this regularly in Karon and Kata. Drugs? Who knows.

Can you imagine the outcry from the tuk-tuk brigade if the police tried to breathalise or drug test them? There would be cries of outrage at being discriminated against. But what do you think fuels their crazed attacks on farangs?

Posted by Alcohol Fuelled September 1, 2011 11:03:59PM

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"If it's good for the capital – it's good for the country."
Great, let's get the Bangkok taxis down here. They are in the capital, therefore, they should be in Phuket.

Funny how most tourist and expats don't complain about power failure, water shortages, slow internet speed etc – they complain about the tuk-tuks in Phuket.

When will TAT realise the amount of damage this issue is doing to Phuket?

Posted by John September 1, 2011 11:12:37PM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian

You are a member of P.I.S.S.? Really? :))

Posted by another steve

I am indeed but unfortunately do not attend as many meetings as I should.

Posted by Ian September 2, 2011 08:32:47AM

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In 2010, me and a group of friends drove from Phuket to Koh Lanta. Along the way we really needed a toilet.

We managed to find a police station somewhere and offered them beer to use their toilet. They were happily cracking them open during work whilst we all took turns to use their loo.

The internal walls of the loo were all covered with pictures of half naked ladies. How unprofessional for a police station.

Posted by Nick September 2, 2011 11:55:13AM

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In 2010, me and a group of friends drove from Phuket to Koh Lanta. Along the way we really needed a toilet.

We managed to find a police station somewhere and offered them beer to use their toilet. They were happily cracking them open during work whilst we all took turns to use their loo.

The internal walls of the loo were all covered with pictures of half naked ladies. How unprofessional for a police station.

Posted by Nick September 2, 2011 11:55:13AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian

You are a member of P.I.S.S.? Really? :))

Posted by another steve

I am indeed but unfortunately do not attend as many meetings as I should.

Posted by Ian September 2, 2011 08:32:47AM

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"If it's good for the capital – it's good for the country."
Great, let's get the Bangkok taxis down here. They are in the capital, therefore, they should be in Phuket.

Funny how most tourist and expats don't complain about power failure, water shortages, slow internet speed etc – they complain about the tuk-tuks in Phuket.

When will TAT realise the amount of damage this issue is doing to Phuket?

Posted by John September 1, 2011 11:12:37PM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Great idea, if this does not get approved, maybe they could make the tuk-tuk drivers cab drink and drug free!

Posted by Sandy Shores

Those of us who have been around for some time are well aware that the tuk-tuk drivers sit around drinking between fares. I have seen this regularly in Karon and Kata. Drugs? Who knows.

Can you imagine the outcry from the tuk-tuk brigade if the police tried to breathalise or drug test them? There would be cries of outrage at being discriminated against. But what do you think fuels their crazed attacks on farangs?

Posted by Alcohol Fuelled September 1, 2011 11:03:59PM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Great idea, if this does not get approved, maybe they could make the tuk-tuk drivers cab drink and drug free!

Posted by Sandy Shores September 1, 2011 08:13:53PM

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Hmm, I've seen alcohol banned in public places including beaches in the US, UK and Australia, with draconian punishments for popping a beer and cops patrolling to prevent this heinous offense.

Let me guess– it should be different because we are on holiday. Hypocrisy rules!

Posted by Mister Ree September 1, 2011 07:12:27PM

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Let's not destroy the magic of Phuket (in particular Patong) due to the behavior of some idiots.

Sure, allocate some dry zones, but perhaps only use them for specific functions (family shows with many youngsters) and allocate areas for those who need to drink.

The majority of visitors to Phuket come for a break and the privilege to enjoy themselves without restrictions, but sanity must prevail.
Will this stop alcohol sales?

Posted by Simmo September 1, 2011 06:44:14PM

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How about banning TVs in police boxes and stations?

Posted by Kildonan September 1, 2011 05:47:37PM

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What a concept! No drinking in government buildings? And, no drinking by cops on duty? What's Thailand trying to do? Seriously, this should have been done a few decades ago.

Posted by Vegas Bigfoot

That is PRECISELY what I thought when I read this! It's amazing that any country would actually have policemen drinking in their stations! LOL

Posted by Ellie Ryan September 1, 2011 04:44:39PM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Banning para-gliding at Laem Phromthep would be great! And at the EGAT windmill site nearby.

Posted by Chas

What's the problem with the para-gliding? I love to watch it :)

Posted by Chuck Mooreland September 1, 2011 04:41:52PM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian

You are a member of P.I.S.S.? Really? :))

Posted by another steve September 1, 2011 04:33:12PM

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What a concept! No drinking in government buildings? And, no drinking by cops on duty? What's Thailand trying to do? Seriously, this should have been done a few decades ago.

Posted by Vegas Bigfoot September 1, 2011 03:33:42PM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Banning para-gliding at Laem Phromthep would be great! And at the EGAT windmill site nearby.

Posted by Chas September 1, 2011 03:33:36PM

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Phuket would be a far better place if it did "become another Singapore".
In Singapore all modes of public transport are extremely safe; there are 24-hours drinking zones, but very little violence; prostitution is legal; the police keep a low profile but enforce the law and not change it for the highest bidder; Kite flying, skate-boarding and cycling are not banned, they are allowed in the appropriate places.

Posted by Dickie September 1, 2011 01:38:10PM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt

I like to enjoy a drink myself after work and certainly while watching a sunset and am a member of the Phuket International Sundowners Society but alcohol should only be consumed in bars and restaurants and at home and not in public areas including the streets, parks and the beaches 24 hours a day.

Posted by Ian September 1, 2011 10:47:58AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V

Ohhhh, I see very clearly and with much enthusiasm the attraction of sitting on a beach and "watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two". But I agree with you that the beaches in Phuket are now too dangerous to risk being there after dark.

Posted by Pieter Van Zandt September 1, 2011 10:17:00AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike

Good idea, Mike, stop drinking on beaches at sunset. Never seen the attraction of watching the sun go down and having a cocktail or two.

Posted by Frankie V September 1, 2011 09:49:18AM

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A good idea – and they can start by banning drinking in the street.

Posted by Chas

I agree but when you have the Cheap Charlies coming from Bali this is what you get. Also, we have alcohol free zones in Bondi and they don't work. It just enables more money to be earned from corruption.

Posted by bondi September 1, 2011 09:01:18AM

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Is not fair! When public servants are not serving the public they should be allowed to have some fun, like drinking and playing cards, right?

Posted by Augusto September 1, 2011 08:59:34AM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog

Oh, no – think of all the tourists we're going to lose if they can't chew gum. But seriously the ban on booze in police stations and other government offices is just common sense. But public parks.... ? Not sure about that one. Isn't it illegal to drink in public parks in Thailand already? Anyway the whole thing won't be enforced, so no change probably.

Posted by PG Reader September 1, 2011 08:35:19AM

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At least there is one booze-free zone already on Phuket: Laem Phrom Thep.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin

Is this true? Does anyone know? If so, it could be the tip of the iceberg and for me it would be a most welcome iceberg. Sick and tired of seeing people drunk all over the place.

Posted by Hugh Jackson September 1, 2011 08:28:47AM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea

Good one. I agree they're a far bigger threat than booze. But not sure they could be banned from government offices.

Posted by Glenn Murphy September 1, 2011 08:24:37AM

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I think this is a good thing. People should not drink in parks where children are playing and certainly not around the Temple areas. Drinking should be outlawed on the beaches at sunset. The beaches have a tendency to draw wild parties at night, thus keeping people who would like to stroll in the evening away for fear of robbery or assault by young gangs. There are plenty of places to drink that are deemed legal.

Posted by Mike September 1, 2011 02:12:08AM

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Is this an April Fool's joke? Nothing will ever stop people drinking... that's history!

Posted by Hajo September 1, 2011 12:48:33AM

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Soon they'll ban bicycles, kite flying and skateboarding and it will become another Singapore.

Posted by ghettodog August 31, 2011 11:19:57PM

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At least there is one booze-free zone already on Phuket: Laem Phrom Thep.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin August 31, 2011 11:10:56PM

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A good idea – and they can start by banning drinking in the street.

Posted by Chas August 31, 2011 10:45:51PM

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Is this an April Fool's joke? Horst.

Posted by Horst August 31, 2011 10:20:44PM

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I think it would make more sense to have tuk-tuk free zones and site them all over Phuket. lol.

Posted by ohyea August 31, 2011 10:12:14PM

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