Phuket Gazette

PHUKET: There is a Thai idiom, gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng, that has as its English-language equivalent, “You reap what you sow”. Similar maxims no doubt exist in every language because of the universal truths they contain.

Local leaders throughout Phuket are grappling for ways to deal with the damage from the floods and landslides that have been screaming at us in a number of areas over the past ten days.

Most if not all of this is the direct result of a combination of causes that include greed; corruption and dereliction of duty by local officials; shoddy design and construction – and some genuine stupidity. Almost all of the costly damage we are now suffering is self-inflicted.

Landslides are naturally occurring phenomena in the tropics. Unlike land masses in parts of the world that get an occasional scrape clean by glaciers, here in Phuket the ground beneath us has undergone eons of erosion, creating thick soil deposits that must eventually give way to the forces of gravity, water and time.

But this simple geologic fact is obviously misunderstood or completely ignored by many developers and the officials who oversee their work, who collectively conspire to re-create the Riviera on loose laterite so they can reap financial rewards.

It has only taken some heavier-than-average rainfall to expose their practices just as clearly as the exposed patches of soil they have created throughout the island.

In Patong, where the 80-meter restriction on building has been blatantly ignored, each deluge now results in flooding of key commercial areas, while landslides are a constant threat upslope.

While the debate over whether to bore a tunnel under Patong Hill droned on and an “iconic” new sign was being erected to greet visitors to that troubled city, officials turned cash-blinkered eyes to ill-advised construction and encroachment taking place in the same areas, including many that are so obviously well above the 80-meter limit.

Sadly, the response by provincial authorities to the man-made emergencies we now face has been as predictable as it is hopeless. With damage now officially estimated at 100 million baht, the province has announced that it only has half that amount to conduct repairs. Thus, it will approach the Highways Department in Bangkok for additional funding.

But a response from Bangkok may take some time. The Highway people there have more desperate priorities, with much of Thailand's national road network now under water.

As for how any additional funds will be allocated, those decisions fall to each of Phuket's three district offices – the same bodies largely responsible for allowing the problem to have developed in the first place.
– Phuket Gazette

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre October 16, 2011 10:47:48AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon October 16, 2011 11:02:41AM

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A place is the collection of the people that live in it. It is by definition the sum of the decisions that the people that have power to make those decisions create.

The general public that allow anything to continue that is wrong are just as much to blame, no matter what goes on behind the door. If you say nothing, you pay the price. Welcome to Phuket – the ultimate 'me, me' society.

Posted by A Wiliams October 16, 2011 11:22:36AM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower October 16, 2011 12:02:56PM

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We can but hope that if they build a tunnel to Patong, they have the sense to build it so it doesn't become a billion baht fishing hole!

Posted by better phuket October 16, 2011 12:48:15PM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete October 16, 2011 07:49:09PM

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"But a response from Bangkok may take some time. The Highway people there have more desperate priorities, with much of Thailand's national road network now under water."

First: yep, there is a 'bit' more, to repair.
Second: count the people, probably voting the actual government next time, in both areas. And do the math. Where would you send more (the) money, to help/repair/....

Posted by 24/7 October 16, 2011 08:24:38PM

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Well said that man. Excellent article but these old guys with their jet black hair and pearly white smiles and massed bands of flunkies have robbed the people of this island for decades and will pay it no never mind.

They have salted away their fortune and already have similar minded individuals or family members ready to replace them at the corruption feast that is now turning into a mud pie thanks to their deeds.

Posted by Col Mustard October 16, 2011 08:52:38PM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun October 16, 2011 09:24:42PM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl October 17, 2011 08:38:55AM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun

"Those foreigners who did not vote...." LOL. Guy must be a tourist. LOL.

Posted by Mantis October 17, 2011 08:40:57AM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun

"Those foreigners who did not vote...." LOL. Guy must be a tourist.

Posted by Mantis October 17, 2011 08:41:23AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao October 17, 2011 08:43:48AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

Where I come from a "bun and bap" would involve a trip to the nearest baker's shop.

Posted by agogohome October 17, 2011 09:48:05AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

There are two types of "karma": the good karma or "bun" and the bad "karma" or "baap". "Bun" can guarantee a happy and satisfactory life now and also in the next reincarnation. In many Thai people's thinking, "bun" is equated with a wealth or an asset. It can be earned and accumulated like money in a bank account. "Bun" is credit and "baap" is debit.

Posted by Lars October 17, 2011 10:19:10AM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower

If they are illegally encroaching how would they have land titles?

Posted by Benjy October 17, 2011 10:54:39AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

There are two types of "karma": the good karma or "bun" and the bad "karma" or "baap". "Bun" can guarantee a happy and satisfactory life now and also in the next reincarnation. In many Thai people's thinking, "bun" is equated with a wealth or an asset. It can be earned and accumulated like money in a bank account. "Bun" is credit and "baap" is debit.

Posted by Lars

Thank you for that explanation. Can you tell me, when I get a tuk-tuk in Phuket, am I getting involved with "bun" or "baap?"

I read all the time of tourist crashing their motorbike, jumping of balconies, getting bashed, ripped off, scammed, extorted etc. Seems like there is a lot of "baap" here in Phuket. What did the tourist do to deserve such "baap?"

'Bun" for me is Vietnam. Bye-bye baap Thailand.

Posted by Tourist October 17, 2011 11:20:50AM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower

If they are illegally encroaching how would they have land titles?

Posted by Benjy

That is happening in many National Parks in Thailand as they buy a land with title near National Parks and claim that NP lands are part of their plots.

After it is a question of money to get genuine documents from corrupted-civil servants. Phuket have many case with that problem.

Posted by Whistle-Blower October 17, 2011 01:02:03PM

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Have they start the digging tunnel already?
Answer: No, they haven't started yet! They will do it first thing after they dig graves for themselves.

Posted by Local People October 17, 2011 04:16:01PM

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Have they start the digging tunnel already?
Answer: No, they haven't started yet! They will do it first thing after they dig graves for themselves.

Posted by Local People October 17, 2011 04:16:01PM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower

If they are illegally encroaching how would they have land titles?

Posted by Benjy

That is happening in many National Parks in Thailand as they buy a land with title near National Parks and claim that NP lands are part of their plots.

After it is a question of money to get genuine documents from corrupted-civil servants. Phuket have many case with that problem.

Posted by Whistle-Blower October 17, 2011 01:02:03PM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

There are two types of "karma": the good karma or "bun" and the bad "karma" or "baap". "Bun" can guarantee a happy and satisfactory life now and also in the next reincarnation. In many Thai people's thinking, "bun" is equated with a wealth or an asset. It can be earned and accumulated like money in a bank account. "Bun" is credit and "baap" is debit.

Posted by Lars

Thank you for that explanation. Can you tell me, when I get a tuk-tuk in Phuket, am I getting involved with "bun" or "baap?"

I read all the time of tourist crashing their motorbike, jumping of balconies, getting bashed, ripped off, scammed, extorted etc. Seems like there is a lot of "baap" here in Phuket. What did the tourist do to deserve such "baap?"

'Bun" for me is Vietnam. Bye-bye baap Thailand.

Posted by Tourist October 17, 2011 11:20:50AM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower

If they are illegally encroaching how would they have land titles?

Posted by Benjy October 17, 2011 10:54:39AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

There are two types of "karma": the good karma or "bun" and the bad "karma" or "baap". "Bun" can guarantee a happy and satisfactory life now and also in the next reincarnation. In many Thai people's thinking, "bun" is equated with a wealth or an asset. It can be earned and accumulated like money in a bank account. "Bun" is credit and "baap" is debit.

Posted by Lars October 17, 2011 10:19:10AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao

Where I come from a "bun and bap" would involve a trip to the nearest baker's shop.

Posted by agogohome October 17, 2011 09:48:05AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl

Actually, what DOES "bun & baap" mean? Does anyone know?

Posted by Jao October 17, 2011 08:43:48AM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun

"Those foreigners who did not vote...." LOL. Guy must be a tourist.

Posted by Mantis October 17, 2011 08:41:23AM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun

"Those foreigners who did not vote...." LOL. Guy must be a tourist. LOL.

Posted by Mantis October 17, 2011 08:40:57AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete

"bun and baap" i.e. burn and repair!

Posted by Karl October 17, 2011 08:38:55AM

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Now is the time to be happy you are a farang and can just pack up and go. We are not wanted or needed in this country; only our money is needed. Let's take off for better pastures. Those who did not vote or try and speak out, shame on you. (This should get me banned from this site?)

Posted by Dun October 16, 2011 09:24:42PM

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Well said that man. Excellent article but these old guys with their jet black hair and pearly white smiles and massed bands of flunkies have robbed the people of this island for decades and will pay it no never mind.

They have salted away their fortune and already have similar minded individuals or family members ready to replace them at the corruption feast that is now turning into a mud pie thanks to their deeds.

Posted by Col Mustard October 16, 2011 08:52:38PM

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"But a response from Bangkok may take some time. The Highway people there have more desperate priorities, with much of Thailand's national road network now under water."

First: yep, there is a 'bit' more, to repair.
Second: count the people, probably voting the actual government next time, in both areas. And do the math. Where would you send more (the) money, to help/repair/....

Posted by 24/7 October 16, 2011 08:24:38PM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon

Udom Somboon is quite right. Modern capitalism prevents karma from working. The poor reap only pain, while the rich reap only profit. The Thai way of life is based on "bun" and "baap" – again, you reap what you sow. But it doesn't work any more. The rich become richer and the poor become poorer, no matter how they behave. We need to reorganize society so that people DO reap what they sow.

Posted by Pete October 16, 2011 07:49:09PM

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We can but hope that if they build a tunnel to Patong, they have the sense to build it so it doesn't become a billion baht fishing hole!

Posted by better phuket October 16, 2011 12:48:15PM

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The best option to fight greed by illegal encroachers would be to revoke the land titles of those lawbreakers.

Posted by Whistle-Blower October 16, 2011 12:02:56PM

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A place is the collection of the people that live in it. It is by definition the sum of the decisions that the people that have power to make those decisions create.

The general public that allow anything to continue that is wrong are just as much to blame, no matter what goes on behind the door. If you say nothing, you pay the price. Welcome to Phuket – the ultimate 'me, me' society.

Posted by A Wiliams October 16, 2011 11:22:36AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre

And Somnamnaa = You reap what you sow. But the problem is that the average taxpayer in Phuket did not sow it. The planting was done by influential people who reaped at the time of sowing, and will reaping nothing in the way of financial loss now. It's only you and me who will do that.

Posted by Udom Somboon October 16, 2011 11:02:41AM

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Gam dai khrai gaw gam nan yawm sanawng = Somnamnaa!

Posted by Jean-Pierre October 16, 2011 10:47:48AM

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