Phuket Gazette

PHUKET: Over the years we’ve had a lot of ups and downs with the Phuket Internet Speed reporting site, phuketinternetspeed.com. We’ve gathered 30,000 speed tests from around the island, from almost 900 computer users, covering nearly 100 different internet packages. That makes Phuket Internet Speed, by far, as best I know, the largest community-based independent speed reporting site on the internet.

Our emphasis has always been on single-threaded international download speeds. You may well argue that single-thread international download speeds aren’t as important as they once were, and you’d be right.

Many people in Phuket now use torrents to download movies, music, and other files that they just can’t get in Thailand. Torrents employ multiple streams, frequently to different countries – they pull pieces of a file from any available resource, then re-assemble the file once the pieces have been downloaded. If somebody who’s broadcasting a torrent is located in Thailand, chances are good you’ll be pulling some parts of the file from inside Thailand.

Browsers are getting good enough to pull down some files in multiple threads. Single threading is still the most common way of getting files, at least to a first approximation, but multiple threading download managers are becoming much more common.

All of the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in Phuket now cache sites so, for example, if you think you’re watching a direct feed of the Rugby World Cup, you aren’t: the ISP brings one copy of the live feed of the Rugby World Cup to Bangkok, and the feed that goes out to subscribers in Thailand actually originates in Bangkok, delayed by just a fraction of a second. It’s so fast that you wouldn’t notice, but the caching approach saves the ISPs a huge amount of (expensive!) bandwidth outside the country. The caching is automatic, part of a software package the ISP buys, and generally works well.

Many of the major websites now have servers mirrored in Singapore, and the web site owners pay for dedicated fast lines from Bangkok to Singapore. So if you check your Gmail (from Google) or play a YouTube video (also from Google), you aren’t actually hopping to a server in the US or Europe. Your connection actually goes to Bangkok, then Singapore over a very fast (and usually reliable) dedicated line. Bottom line: if you’re working on a Microsoft, Google, Amazon, or Akamai website, your domestic inside-Thailand speed is very close to the speed you’ll see on-screen. The balancing on the back end – where your Gmail mail, say, gets synced with backup copies all over the world – happens internationally at the blink of an eye. Perhaps a leisurely blink, but it’s so fast you’ll never notice.

Over the years, international download speeds have become less significant. They’re primarily a concern when you’re going to websites that don’t have many viewers inside Thailand, or when you’re downloading files that aren’t very popular in Thailand. At the same time, domestic download speeds have become more important, because they frequently reflect what you actually experience.

Unfortunately the speed tests offered by ISPs (primarily based on an engine built by a company named OOKLA, such as speedtest.net) are hard-wired to give you the fastest possible result, with little compensation for reality.

The Phuket Internet Speed reporting site has drawn interest from many different organizations, most notably Google, which has an ongoing effort to improve internet access across the globe.

Some of the interest we’ve drawn, though, hasn’t been good. Starting in October last year, two of Phuket’s ISPs started cheating on the test regime we were using. All of Phuket’s ISPs "throttle" international access – with very rare exceptions, they intentionally slow down any attempt by customers to go outside of Thailand. The cheating ISPs found a way to "poke a hole" through the speed throttling, when customers were going to the specific websites that we used for the speed test. As a result, speed tests that Phuket people have posted since October need to be examined with a grain of salt.

It took a couple of months, but we finally discovered that the ISPs were cheating on all of the test sites, except one – the one in Parsippany, New Jersey. Heaven only knows why they missed Parsippany, but at least as of this writing, our old test regime still gives valid results when run to Parsippany.

That said, I’ve switched internet speed testing site to testmy.net for my own personal use, and I suggest you do the same. None of the ISPs are cheating on this site – in fact, it isn’t clear if they ‘can’ cheat in the same way, because the location of the test seems to change. Which suits our needs perfectly.

The site has an additional advantage: it will run automatic, periodic speed tests, then gather and display the results. That helps me keep track of when my line is working well, and when it goes to the dogs.

Here’s how to set up automatic testing on testmy.net:

1) Go to testmy.net. In the upper right corner, click Create Account. Follow the instructions to create a new account, either a completely new account (which I recommend), or by logging on with an existing Facebook, Twitter, or Google+ account.

2) When you’ve jumped through the hoops, click in the upper right corner to Sign In. On the top bar, click Auto Test.

3) Up at the top, click on the link that says Server Selection (it’s in a nearly illegible blue). Choose one of the offered servers. I use the one in Dallas, but you may prefer one of the others. Testmy.net will remember your choice. Once again, click Auto Test.

4) Select the button marked ‘Combined’. On the right, you can run the test as many times as you like – I typically run it every hour, for 100 times (or four days). (Note: if you’re running on a 3G line, you probably don’t want to burn through your data allowance by running a lot of tests.) Click the button marked ‘Min Download Size’ and choose a good-sized test regimen – I usually run 3 MB. Similarly, click the Min Upload Size button and pick a significant test – I use 1 MB.

5) Click the button marked ‘Start Automatic Test’. The test runs immediately, and you see the result.

6) Don’t do anything. As long as your browser is running, and it has a tab open to the testmy.net site, the testmy.net program will run tests for as long as you’ve specified. If you click on Your Results in the upper right, then choose your login name, you’ll see a graph like the one in the screen shot on this page.

7) From time to time, drop by phuketinternetspeed.com and post some of your results! That’s the easiest way to see what other people are experiencing.

Our regular weekly computer clinic roundtables continue every Sunday morning, 10am at the Sandwich Shoppe, Chalong. If you have a Windows problem that needs to be solved, or a question about internet service in Phuket, drop by and ask one of the assembled gurus. It’s always free. Sponsored by the Phuket Gazette and Khun Woody’s Sandwich Shoppes.

We’re moving the Sandwich Shoppe - Patong to Kathu in the next few weeks, and starting a new Sandwich Shoppe Express in Kata in the coming months. Stay tuned for more info about our new locations, and computer gatherings, as events unfold.

Live Wire is Woody Leonhard’s weekly snapshot of all things Internet in Phuket.

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I was checking to see if they were using a snail or a turtle to measure the internet speed.

Posted by The Original Steve April 9, 2013 10:20:04PM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn April 10, 2013 06:59:03AM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells April 11, 2013 06:08:49PM

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The limitations are purely an administrative limit NOT a technical limit, more false advertising. I would suggest other ISP are doing the same. My background, 39 years telecommunications tech, with Telstra Australia, I helped build Telstras [sic] internet network infrastructure.

Posted by Laurie Howells April 11, 2013 06:12:36PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells April 12, 2013 02:47:55PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells

Perhaps you've not installed one, Mr Howells?

Posted by Ian Warburton April 12, 2013 03:16:25PM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn

I've written about speedtest.net extensively. It accurately measures your speed to Bangkok – and that's it. Even if it tells you that you're measuring speeds to the US, or Europe, it isn't. Worse, I believe the internet service providers in Phuket "tunnel" speedtest.net access, to make the speeds appear faster than they really are. In short, I wouldn't rely on speedtest.net – and I've been saying that for many years.

Posted by Woody Leonhard April 12, 2013 09:31:42PM

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The limitations are purely an administrative limit NOT a technical limit, more false advertising. I would suggest other ISP are doing the same. My background, 39 years telecommunications tech, with Telstra Australia, I helped build Telstras [sic] internet network infrastructure.

Posted by Laurie Howells

That's quite correct, and many different kinds of tests confirm your observation. We're being throttled internationally.

Posted by Woody Leonhard April 12, 2013 09:33:12PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells

Perhaps you've not installed one, Mr Howells?

Posted by Ian Warburton

Oh dear! Ian, I do not know which browser you are using, but BOTH IE10 and Firefox, have built in checkers. They BOTH picked up the incorrectly spelt words, but something seems to go astray once they get to PG. I'm not suggesting my comments are edited, but I do know, in the past, they have been.

Posted by Laurie Howells April 13, 2013 09:22:58AM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn

I've written about speedtest.net extensively. It accurately measures your speed to Bangkok – and that's it. Even if it tells you that you're measuring speeds to the US, or Europe, it isn't. Worse, I believe the internet service providers in Phuket "tunnel" speedtest.net access, to make the speeds appear faster than they really are. In short, I wouldn't rely on speedtest.net – and I've been saying that for many years.

Posted by Woody Leonhard

Speedtest.net readings are technically impossible. If you have ADSL you might achieve close to your max, but ONLY if you are connected directly to the dslam (connection point) with NO line length. If you have fiber, there is NO loss; the bandwidth for fibre has NOT been reached (approximately 14 tera bits per second over 160km, rising every year as multiplexing techniques improve).

Posted by Laurie Howells April 13, 2013 10:01:33AM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn

I've written about speedtest.net extensively. It accurately measures your speed to Bangkok – and that's it. Even if it tells you that you're measuring speeds to the US, or Europe, it isn't. Worse, I believe the internet service providers in Phuket "tunnel" speedtest.net access, to make the speeds appear faster than they really are. In short, I wouldn't rely on speedtest.net – and I've been saying that for many years.

Posted by Woody Leonhard

Speedtest.net readings are technically impossible. If you have ADSL you might achieve close to your max, but ONLY if you are connected directly to the dslam (connection point) with NO line length. If you have fiber, there is NO loss; the bandwidth for fibre has NOT been reached (approximately 14 tera bits per second over 160km, rising every year as multiplexing techniques improve).

Posted by Laurie Howells April 13, 2013 10:01:33AM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells

Perhaps you've not installed one, Mr Howells?

Posted by Ian Warburton

Oh dear! Ian, I do not know which browser you are using, but BOTH IE10 and Firefox, have built in checkers. They BOTH picked up the incorrectly spelt words, but something seems to go astray once they get to PG. I'm not suggesting my comments are edited, but I do know, in the past, they have been.

Posted by Laurie Howells April 13, 2013 09:22:58AM

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The limitations are purely an administrative limit NOT a technical limit, more false advertising. I would suggest other ISP are doing the same. My background, 39 years telecommunications tech, with Telstra Australia, I helped build Telstras [sic] internet network infrastructure.

Posted by Laurie Howells

That's quite correct, and many different kinds of tests confirm your observation. We're being throttled internationally.

Posted by Woody Leonhard April 12, 2013 09:33:12PM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn

I've written about speedtest.net extensively. It accurately measures your speed to Bangkok – and that's it. Even if it tells you that you're measuring speeds to the US, or Europe, it isn't. Worse, I believe the internet service providers in Phuket "tunnel" speedtest.net access, to make the speeds appear faster than they really are. In short, I wouldn't rely on speedtest.net – and I've been saying that for many years.

Posted by Woody Leonhard April 12, 2013 09:31:42PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells

Perhaps you've not installed one, Mr Howells?

Posted by Ian Warburton April 12, 2013 03:16:25PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells

Ed, you are slipping, you missed putting your beloved [sic] after bart (part), Baltant fealse (Blatant false), connect(connected) and limtid(limited). As for your comment, "not fully understood" well that doesn't surprise me, when did you become a telecommunications technician. By the way, no spell checker picked up any errors, can you suggest why?

Posted by Laurie Howells April 12, 2013 02:47:55PM

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The limitations are purely an administrative limit NOT a technical limit, more false advertising. I would suggest other ISP are doing the same. My background, 39 years telecommunications tech, with Telstra Australia, I helped build Telstras [sic] internet network infrastructure.

Posted by Laurie Howells April 11, 2013 06:12:36PM

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Under bart 1 section 22 of the consumer protection act of 1979, they are in breach of said act . Baltant fealse advertising as well as providing false readings, especially ADSL, on speedtest.net, technically impossible to get the high results given by the test site, unless you are connect to the dslam with no line length. As for international speeds, well 3BB says it is limtid due to technical imitations. TBC. [This comment has been seen but not edited, or fully understood, by the Phuket Gazette.]

Posted by Laurie Howells April 11, 2013 06:08:49PM

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Are you aware of http://speedtest.net? What is your opinion?

Posted by bodysurfNaiHarn April 10, 2013 06:59:03AM

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I was checking to see if they were using a snail or a turtle to measure the internet speed.

Posted by The Original Steve April 9, 2013 10:20:04PM

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