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PHUKET: The separate arrests of a German man and a Swiss man at their homes in Chalong late last month (story here) by Immigration officials sent a chill through the law-abiding expat community in Phuket.

The two men were arrested despite their protests that they were each building their own boat for their own private use.

The Phuket Gazette was told both men were subjected to a fine, allegedly 60,000 baht apiece, and then released. As one of the two men survives on a meager pension, he had to borrow the money to gain his freedom.

At the time of the arrests, no officers at Phuket Immigration were willing to comment about either case. Instead, officers said Phuket Immigration chief Sunchai Chokkajaykij – who was in Bangkok at the time – was the only person with the authority to speak about the incident.

On receiving a call from the Gazette that same day, Col Sunchai terminated his conversation before our reporters could ask him whether or not he was aware of the arrests of the two men.

The next day, Phuket Immigration’s Capt Angkarn Yasanop called the Gazette to vehemently deny that the German and Swiss nationals were fined, attesting that they were arrested for overstaying their visas, but later set free.

“We received a tip-off from our undercover immigration officers that the two men were overstaying their visas. When our officers went there [to the men’s homes], the two men could not present them any documents,” he said.

Capt Angkarn did not make it clear whether the “documents” he was referring to were the men’s passports or work permits, or both.

“The men were taken to Phuket Immigration [in Phuket Town], but later when a lawyer turned up, we released them,” he said.

Capt Angkarn did not comment on why immigration officers did not check the national database to confirm immigration’s own records of the men’s legal status, before placing the retirees under arrest and taking them to the immigration office in Phuket Town.

By then, however, news of the arrests had spread throughout Phuket’s expat community. A flurry of comments posted on the Gazette website highlighted the dangerous “catch all” wording of the law that empowers officers to arrest any foreigner at anytime for literally anything.

The Alien Working Act 2551 (2008), according to the version listed on the International Labour Organization (ILO) website – no official versions of the law are available in any language other than Thai – explains the definition of work as: working by physical strength or knowledge whether or not intended for wages or any other benefits.

However, Yaowapa Pibulpol, chief of the Phuket Provincial Employment Office, the government office established to specifically regulate and administer employment law, maintained that the wording does not allow officers to apply the law beyond its intended scope.

“Foreigners cannot perform any work – in the true sense of the word – without a work permit. And they may only perform the work listed in the work permit and only at the place of work listed in the permit.

“But that doesn’t mean they can’t cook their own meals, clean their own houses or tend to their own gardens. Of course they can, but as soon as they are hired or profit by doing any of these things, they are ‘working’,” she said.

“And any foreigners who want to build their own boats on their own time, using their own skills and experience, for their own personal use are not breaking the law. They can do this, but they cannot build a boat so they can sell it later on. That would be profiting from the work,” Ms Yaowapa added.

Not applying the law beyond its intended scope is also what makes it legal for foreigners to assist in public cleanup campaigns and other community projects – as long as the volunteer work is not regular, she added.

“Being a volunteer for an organization requires a work permit. This is because although you might not get money from the volunteer work, you might get food or a place to stay as a reward. So if you do not have a work permit, you are illegal,” Ms Yaowapa said.

Meanwhile, Capt Angkarn at Phuket Immigration says the raids will continue, especially now that the number of officers at his disposal have been doubled.

“Previously, Phuket Immigration had only 20 officers. Then, in July, more officers arrived and now we have 40. This has made it easier to be more effective in our work, and this is why people are now hearing about more raids being conducted,” Capt Angkarn said.

“When investigating a foreigner, we check five points: 1) They have their passport with them; 2) Their visa is still valid; 3) They have a work permit; 4) The job and the workplace cited in the work permit match what they are actually doing as work; and 5) They are not performing work that foreigners are prohibited from doing by law,” he said.

Russians, Chinese and Australians are trending as the most likely to be caught, said Capt Angkarn, but only because there are large numbers of each on the island.

“We are not targeting any particular group of foreigners, but as many people of those nationalities come to Phuket, they are more likely to be subjected to a raid, and therefore more likely to be caught compared with other nationalities,” he added.

In making work permit arrests, immigration officers often co-ordinate their efforts with the Phuket Employment Office, Capt Angkarn explained.

“The authority of arrest is ours, so officers from the Employment Office do not join us during raids,” he said.

“However, we work together to share information. Sometimes they give us tip-offs about foreigners suspected of working or staying in the country illegally, and we go and arrest them. Sometimes, when we arrest foreigners, we have to check back with the Employment Office to make sure information about the foreigners is accurate.

“The Phuket Employment Office also conducts their own raids, but since they do not have many officers, they cannot do this often. Most of the raids are conducted by us instead,” he added.

In arresting foreigners on work permit and visa overstay charges, it is standard procedure for immigration officers to present the suspects to the nearest police station for processing, Capt Angkarn explained.

“When we make an arrest, we hand the suspect over to the local police station. The police investigator questions both the immigration officer who made the arrest and the suspect, and collects any evidence seized.

“If the police investigator proceeds with pressing charges, the case file is sent to the prosecutor and the prosecutor submits it to the court.

After the court hands down its verdict, and its sentence, the foreigner is returned to the police station where he was charged, then the police investigator hands custody of the foreigner over to Phuket Immigration.

Foreigners have the right to appeal the verdict, just as with any other court case, Capt Angkarn explained.

“They can file a complaint to the Court of Appeals if they are dissatisfied with the verdict or sentence,” he said.

However, if the foreigner does not contest the court’s decision, the standard procedure is deportation.

“We will send the foreigner to the Immigration Bureau in Bangkok, where the foreigner’s name is added to the immigration blacklist before he is deported out of the country,” Capt Angkarn said.
– Gazette reporters

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader October 20, 2013 08:16:40PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson October 21, 2013 07:49:16AM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix October 21, 2013 09:25:41AM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler October 21, 2013 10:27:16AM

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Do all the Tourist and Immigration Police Volunteers have work permits? Just asking :-)

Posted by agogohome October 21, 2013 02:30:48PM

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So by this definition, washing your own car, that you may sell later, is illegal. The reason Thailand gets away with these absurd gray area rules regarding foreigners is the legions of sex pats who don't dare protest. Sex can sell anything and Thailand knows it.

Posted by Horse Doctor October 22, 2013 12:10:49PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair October 22, 2013 03:01:26PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair

Have you been there? I am sure not. So better don't call people liar if you have no idea what's going on in Phuket.

Posted by Thomas Schimler October 22, 2013 03:12:05PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair

Have you been there? I am sure not. So better don't call people liar if you have no idea what's going on in Phuket.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

Yes. 2,000 baht.

Posted by Fair Isfair October 22, 2013 03:28:24PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe October 22, 2013 04:11:31PM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain October 22, 2013 04:22:22PM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix

Astrix, I suggest you actually read the article before commenting. It clearly states "Not applying the law beyond its intended scope is also what makes it legal for foreigners to assist in public cleanup campaigns and other community projects – as long as the volunteer work is not regular"And as for your other comment about Krabi and Phi Phi, other provinces can be added to a Phuket based WP.

Posted by NomadJoeDiver October 22, 2013 10:47:15PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe

Awwww, sorry Cliwe, perhaps you just don't travel in circles where you would meet them. Poor bugger.

Posted by Nosey October 23, 2013 06:15:26PM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain

Well said, Alain. You must be a university professor, no? Maybe you hold a PhD in racism, with a masters in English? It's people like you who make me embarrassed to be a farang, and who ruin the reputation of the rest of us in the expat community. Time for you to get out and go home, me thinks.

Posted by Embarrassed October 23, 2013 06:24:58PM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix

What a childish and silly little comment. If you've lived here a while as I have, you would know that no foreigner has ever been reported as being arrested for participating in a genuine charity event without a work permit. No doubt this comes as a disappointment to you, but that is the way it is. So you don't need to start rumours based on your own perverted lack of respect for the truth with regard to abuse by officials of the work permit rules.

Posted by Mantis October 23, 2013 06:37:06PM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain

Well said, Alain. You must be a university professor, no? Maybe you hold a PhD in racism, with a masters in English? It's people like you who make me embarrassed to be a farang, and who ruin the reputation of the rest of us in the expat community. Time for you to get out and go home, me thinks.

Posted by Embarrassed

Embarrassed facts![sic]Due to all surveys, Thai [sic] have one of the lowest IQ [sic] in Asia, even Thai parliament are aware of it.[sic]It´s a big and real problem, education and food standard have to improve alot [sic], especially in northen [sic] parts.Besides, I intend to stay in this country and do my best to make it a better living place. And still be honest and frank about facts. Racism is for people, [sic] not willing to hear the truth, or?

Posted by Alain October 23, 2013 10:34:23PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe

Awwww, sorry Cliwe, perhaps you just don't travel in circles where you would meet them. Poor bugger.

Posted by Nosey

Exactly, you right, circle around this country, I found a lot of poor buggers.

Posted by Cliwe October 24, 2013 12:15:07AM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe

Awwww, sorry Cliwe, perhaps you just don't travel in circles where you would meet them. Poor bugger.

Posted by Nosey

Exactly, you right, circle around this country, I found a lot of poor buggers.

Posted by Cliwe October 24, 2013 12:15:07AM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain

Well said, Alain. You must be a university professor, no? Maybe you hold a PhD in racism, with a masters in English? It's people like you who make me embarrassed to be a farang, and who ruin the reputation of the rest of us in the expat community. Time for you to get out and go home, me thinks.

Posted by Embarrassed

Embarrassed facts![sic]Due to all surveys, Thai [sic] have one of the lowest IQ [sic] in Asia, even Thai parliament are aware of it.[sic]It´s a big and real problem, education and food standard have to improve alot [sic], especially in northen [sic] parts.Besides, I intend to stay in this country and do my best to make it a better living place. And still be honest and frank about facts. Racism is for people, [sic] not willing to hear the truth, or?

Posted by Alain October 23, 2013 10:34:23PM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix

What a childish and silly little comment. If you've lived here a while as I have, you would know that no foreigner has ever been reported as being arrested for participating in a genuine charity event without a work permit. No doubt this comes as a disappointment to you, but that is the way it is. So you don't need to start rumours based on your own perverted lack of respect for the truth with regard to abuse by officials of the work permit rules.

Posted by Mantis October 23, 2013 06:37:06PM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain

Well said, Alain. You must be a university professor, no? Maybe you hold a PhD in racism, with a masters in English? It's people like you who make me embarrassed to be a farang, and who ruin the reputation of the rest of us in the expat community. Time for you to get out and go home, me thinks.

Posted by Embarrassed October 23, 2013 06:24:58PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe

Awwww, sorry Cliwe, perhaps you just don't travel in circles where you would meet them. Poor bugger.

Posted by Nosey October 23, 2013 06:15:26PM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix

Astrix, I suggest you actually read the article before commenting. It clearly states "Not applying the law beyond its intended scope is also what makes it legal for foreigners to assist in public cleanup campaigns and other community projects – as long as the volunteer work is not regular"And as for your other comment about Krabi and Phi Phi, other provinces can be added to a Phuket based WP.

Posted by NomadJoeDiver October 22, 2013 10:47:15PM

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It´s like this in Thailand. You just can´t follow the laws. That's on purpose, people get there [sic] income from this system. Everyone living here even tourist [sic] have to understand this is still a third world country. They can´t do much better. Because people are not educated, with IQs among the lowest in Asia. On top of this greed and corruption. 70% of Thais thinks [sic] corruption is OK, if it benifits [sic] themselves [sic]. 5 5 5!

Posted by Alain October 22, 2013 04:22:22PM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson

Sorry, but there are almost no young educated in Thailand.

Posted by Cliwe October 22, 2013 04:11:31PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair

Have you been there? I am sure not. So better don't call people liar if you have no idea what's going on in Phuket.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

Yes. 2,000 baht.

Posted by Fair Isfair October 22, 2013 03:28:24PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair

Have you been there? I am sure not. So better don't call people liar if you have no idea what's going on in Phuket.

Posted by Thomas Schimler October 22, 2013 03:12:05PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler

lol. 100,000 baht? That is pure and utter bull crap! If you have to lie, at least do so credibly.

Posted by Fair Isfair October 22, 2013 03:01:26PM

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So by this definition, washing your own car, that you may sell later, is illegal. The reason Thailand gets away with these absurd gray area rules regarding foreigners is the legions of sex pats who don't dare protest. Sex can sell anything and Thailand knows it.

Posted by Horse Doctor October 22, 2013 12:10:49PM

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Do all the Tourist and Immigration Police Volunteers have work permits? Just asking :-)

Posted by agogohome October 21, 2013 02:30:48PM

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Of course nobody gets fined officially. We all know that any money paid goes directly into the official's pockets. I did not receive a receipt for the 100,000 I had to pay for a false address in my work permit either. What bothers me the most in Thailand is the fact that the biggest criminals are actually those who should be ENFORCING the law.

Posted by Thomas Schimler October 21, 2013 10:27:16AM

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So all divers working as volunteers to clean up beaches and coral reefs with Thai Administration (Phuket Marine Biological Center and Eco-Divers Phuket) need work permits, and those diving instructors with work permits to teach diving only cannot help as it is not specified in their work permits that they can do it. Also, Phuket instructors cannot dive at Shark Point (Phang Nga) or Phi-Phi (Krabi) because their work permits apply to Phuket only.

Posted by Asterix October 21, 2013 09:25:41AM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

Posted by reader

Yes, I think the younger, more educated Thais find their country's xenophobia quite embarrassing. It's the older, more sclerotic segment of the population, particularly business people who, unable to compete in the world, fear foreigners and do everything they can to disadvantage them.

Posted by Oscar Peterson October 21, 2013 07:49:16AM

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Thailand has indeed a long way to go before the world takes this country seriously. Xenophobic laws are outdated and not in tune with most other countries which embrace foreigners, particularly Thais who marry foreigners, where many are able to live and work without restrictions, and possess the same rights in all aspects as their fellow citizens, something I'm afraid that is very much missing in Thailand.

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